{"id":11038,"date":"2018-08-20T14:39:50","date_gmt":"2018-08-20T13:39:50","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.worldpolicyconference.com\/?p=11038"},"modified":"2018-08-20T14:39:50","modified_gmt":"2018-08-20T13:39:50","slug":"e-u-sees-real-brexit-talks-at-last-and-real-dangers","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.worldpolicyconference.com\/fr\/e-u-sees-real-brexit-talks-at-last-and-real-dangers\/","title":{"rendered":"E.U. Sees Real Brexit Talks at Last \u2014 and Real Dangers"},"content":{"rendered":"<header class=\"css-sb57iz e345g291\">\n<div class=\"css-30n6iy e345g290\">\n<div class=\"css-acwcvw\">\n<div class=\"css-pqwbx7 e1hs04dy0\">\n<div class=\"css-1baulvz\">\n<p class=\"css-1cbhw1y e1x1pwtg1\"><span style=\"font-size: 1rem;\">Aug. 15, 2018<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/header>\n<div class=\"css-18sbwfn StoryBodyCompanionColumn\">\n<div class=\"css-1h6whtw\">By\u00a0<span class=\"css-1baulvz\">Steven Erlanger, The New York Times<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>\n<div class=\"css-18sbwfn StoryBodyCompanionColumn\">\n<div class=\"css-1h6whtw\">\n<p class=\"css-1i0edl6 e2kc3sl0\">BRUSSELS \u2014 From the start of the torturous negotiations over Brexit, as Britain\u2019s exit from the European Union is known, the talks have followed an all too familiar dynamic.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-1i0edl6 e2kc3sl0\">The Europeans set the agenda; the British push for concessions or special deals, while trying to work out among themselves what they really want. The Europeans say no, sticking to a pretty hard line.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-1i0edl6 e2kc3sl0\">But now, with 85 percent of a deal completed, and the toughest issues remaining, European officials say they are increasingly worried that Prime Minister Theresa May\u2019s government is so divided and fragile that it could collapse, scuttling a deal and inflicting damage on the Continental economy.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-1i0edl6 e2kc3sl0\">So the Europeans are now exploring ways to finesse their position, three senior European officials say, to sign a withdrawal agreement by the end of the year so it can be ratified by the end of March, when Brexit occurs regardless.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"css-18sbwfn StoryBodyCompanionColumn\">\n<div class=\"css-1h6whtw\">\n<p class=\"css-1i0edl6 e2kc3sl0\">That would formally divorce Britain from the bloc after more than 40 years of marriage. But some of the hardest issues would be left for transition talks that will last another 19 months, until the end of 2020.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-1i0edl6 e2kc3sl0\">All of the officials spoke anonymously, following diplomatic practice, and because they do not have permission to be quoted by name.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"InlineMessage-inline--2ysnq\">Big issues remain to be resolved, with the Irish border chief among them. So the Europeans say they may agree to fuzzy language in the withdrawal agreement\u2019s political declaration \u2014 along the lines of \u201caiming to negotiate the closest possible partnership.\u201d<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>\n<p class=\"css-1i0edl6 e2kc3sl0\">The aim is to reduce internal British political warfare over how to best keep the promise of no hard border between Ireland, which will remain in the European Union, and Northern Ireland, which will not.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-1i0edl6 e2kc3sl0\">The new British Foreign Secretary, Jeremy Hunt, has been traveling through northern Europe, lobbying for Britain\u2019s position, warning of a chaotic no deal Brexit, and urging \u201ca change in approach\u201d by Brussels. The British and European Union negotiators will meet again on Thursday and Friday, an unusual mid-vacation session.<\/p>\n<div class=\"css-18sbwfn StoryBodyCompanionColumn\">\n<div class=\"css-1h6whtw\">\n<p class=\"css-1i0edl6 e2kc3sl0\">A big sticking point is how to oversee disputes between Britain and the bloc, since Mrs. May, pushed by fervent Brexiteers, does not want to give the European Court of Justice, the bloc\u2019s highest court, any authority over Britain once it leaves the European Union.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<aside class=\"css-14jsv4e\"><\/aside>\n<\/div>\n<figure class=\"css-l1fb44 e1a8i6eb0\" role=\"group\" aria-label=\"media\">\n<div class=\"css-1xdhyk6 e1vv25i80\"><span class=\"css-1ly73wi e1afaoz0\">Image<\/span><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"css-1m50asq\" src=\"https:\/\/static01.nyt.com\/images\/2018\/08\/10\/arts\/xxeu-brexit2\/merlin_108918475_13638db4-b567-417e-ab72-bde712634685-articleLarge.jpg?quality=75&amp;auto=webp&amp;disable=upscale\" sizes=\"((min-width: 600px) and (max-width: 1004px)) 84vw, (min-width: 1005px) 60vw, 100vw\" srcset=\"https:\/\/static01.nyt.com\/images\/2018\/08\/10\/arts\/xxeu-brexit2\/merlin_108918475_13638db4-b567-417e-ab72-bde712634685-articleLarge.jpg?quality=90&amp;auto=webp 600w,https:\/\/static01.nyt.com\/images\/2018\/08\/10\/arts\/xxeu-brexit2\/merlin_108918475_13638db4-b567-417e-ab72-bde712634685-jumbo.jpg?quality=90&amp;auto=webp 1024w,https:\/\/static01.nyt.com\/images\/2018\/08\/10\/arts\/xxeu-brexit2\/merlin_108918475_13638db4-b567-417e-ab72-bde712634685-superJumbo.jpg?quality=90&amp;auto=webp 2048w\" alt=\"\" \/><\/div><figcaption class=\"css-1wtlzrm e3zkro30\"><span class=\"css-1v07nl7 e1olku6u0\">An abandoned customs post on the Republic of Ireland\u2019s side of the border with Northern Ireland at Muff, near Londonderry.<\/span><span class=\"css-vg01wm e18m0s9i0\"><span class=\"css-1ly73wi e1afaoz0\">Credit<\/span>Andrew Testa for The New York Times<\/span><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<div class=\"css-18sbwfn StoryBodyCompanionColumn\">\n<div class=\"css-1h6whtw\">\n<p class=\"css-1i0edl6 e2kc3sl0\">But the thorniest issue is the nature of the border between Ireland and Northern Ireland, because its status hinges on some understanding of the future trading relationship between Britain and the bloc, which remains up in the air.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-1i0edl6 e2kc3sl0\">Mrs. May, at her meeting with her cabinet at Chequers in July,\u00a0<a class=\"css-1g7m0tk\" title=\"\" href=\"https:\/\/assets.publishing.service.gov.uk\/government\/uploads\/system\/uploads\/attachment_data\/file\/723460\/CHEQUERS_STATEMENT_-_FINAL.PDF\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">supported the concept\u00a0<\/a>of a \u201cfree trade area for goods\u201d \u2014 but not services \u2014 made possible by what she called a \u201cfacilitated customs arrangement.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-1i0edl6 e2kc3sl0\">European officials said that\u00a0<a class=\"css-1g7m0tk\" title=\"\" href=\"https:\/\/assets.publishing.service.gov.uk\/government\/uploads\/system\/uploads\/attachment_data\/file\/723460\/CHEQUERS_STATEMENT_-_FINAL.PDF\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">the Chequers statement<\/a>\u00a0at least clarified for the first time what Britain wants, even if they rejected her customs proposal out of hand.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-1i0edl6 e2kc3sl0\">What was objectionable, they say, is that Britain talks of wanting an \u201ceconomic partnership\u201d with the bloc that is akin to being part of the single market for goods alone.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-1i0edl6 e2kc3sl0\">The Europeans have been clear that Britain cannot keep what it had as a member without the obligations of membership, in particular the free movement of goods, as well as capital, services and labor.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<aside class=\"css-14jsv4e\"><\/aside>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"css-18sbwfn StoryBodyCompanionColumn\">\n<div class=\"css-1h6whtw\">\n<p class=\"css-1i0edl6 e2kc3sl0\">Nor can it be in a formal customs union if it wishes to make its own trading deals, as Mrs. May continues to insist.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-1i0edl6 e2kc3sl0\">Britain has failed to understand, the Europeans say, how much the European Union itself feels threatened by the world since the Brexit referendum \u2014 by the challenges of President Trump, Russia and China, as well as the rise of authoritarian leaders in Hungary and Poland and populists in general who are largely anti-Brussels, as are those in Italy.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-1i0edl6 e2kc3sl0\">So there is even less willingness now to compromise on key European Union principles, and a desire, especially from France, to make it clear that membership in the bloc has privileges not shared by other countries.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-1i0edl6 e2kc3sl0\">There is also a growing weariness with Britain and Mrs. May, who seems to be arguing that she is politically so weak that she cannot talk honestly with her own citizens about what Brexit actually means.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-1i0edl6 e2kc3sl0\">\u201cThe U.K. is looking at this from the angle of the future relationship,\u201d a senior European official said. \u201cThe other 27 are looking at this as an attack on what the E.U. is.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-1i0edl6 e2kc3sl0\">\u201cWe regret the loss of the U.K., which is a cost for everyone,\u201d the official added. \u201cBut it would be even worse if this is the occasion for compromising on the core of the E.U. \u2014 that\u2019s to say, the single market.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<aside class=\"css-14jsv4e\"><\/aside>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"css-18sbwfn StoryBodyCompanionColumn\">\n<div class=\"css-1h6whtw\">\n<p class=\"css-1i0edl6 e2kc3sl0\">That understanding finally seems to be coming home to the British, the Europeans feel, but they are reluctant to specify the consequences, for fear of hurting Mrs. May and creating a new political crisis in Britain that would throw the whole Brexit process into chaos.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<aside class=\"css-14jsv4e\"><\/aside>\n<\/div>\n<figure class=\"css-l1fb44 e1a8i6eb0\" role=\"group\" aria-label=\"media\">\n<div class=\"css-1xdhyk6 e1vv25i80\">\n<p><span class=\"css-1ly73wi e1afaoz0\">Image<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"css-8h527k\">\n<div><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"css-1h6w7uo e1t57l6r0\" src=\"https:\/\/static01.nyt.com\/images\/2018\/08\/16\/arts\/16eu-brexit-1-print\/merlin_139429065_c89f803d-2480-488e-a5b9-8cd16c542f4c-articleLarge.jpg?quality=75&amp;auto=webp&amp;disable=upscale\" sizes=\"((min-width: 600px) and (max-width: 1004px)) 84vw, (min-width: 1005px) 60vw, 100vw\" srcset=\"https:\/\/static01.nyt.com\/images\/2018\/08\/16\/arts\/16eu-brexit-1-print\/merlin_139429065_c89f803d-2480-488e-a5b9-8cd16c542f4c-articleLarge.jpg?quality=90&amp;auto=webp 600w,https:\/\/static01.nyt.com\/images\/2018\/08\/16\/arts\/16eu-brexit-1-print\/merlin_139429065_c89f803d-2480-488e-a5b9-8cd16c542f4c-jumbo.jpg?quality=90&amp;auto=webp 1024w,https:\/\/static01.nyt.com\/images\/2018\/08\/16\/arts\/16eu-brexit-1-print\/merlin_139429065_c89f803d-2480-488e-a5b9-8cd16c542f4c-superJumbo.jpg?quality=90&amp;auto=webp 2048w\" alt=\"\" \/><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div><figcaption class=\"css-1wtlzrm e3zkro30\"><span class=\"css-1v07nl7 e1olku6u0\">Supporters of the European Union demonstrated outside Parliament in central London in June.<\/span><span class=\"css-vg01wm e18m0s9i0\"><span class=\"css-1ly73wi e1afaoz0\">Credit<\/span>Daniel Leal-Olivas\/Agence France-Presse \u2014 Getty Images<\/span><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<div class=\"css-18sbwfn StoryBodyCompanionColumn\">\n<div class=\"css-1h6whtw\">\n<p class=\"css-1i0edl6 e2kc3sl0\">So the Europeans are discussing vague language about a future relationship, hoping that will be enough to make Britain accept the need for a backstop to ensure there is no hard or visible border on the island of Ireland.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-1i0edl6 e2kc3sl0\">\u201cThe aim,\u201d a second European official said, \u201cis to make what seems unacceptable merely unpalatable.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-1i0edl6 e2kc3sl0\">European officials are also searching for compromise.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-1i0edl6 e2kc3sl0\">If a formal customs union is impossible, European officials say one solution might be a future free-trade agreement with the European Union, much as Canada and Japan now have, but one that could allow the unencumbered movement of goods across the British (and Irish) borders.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-1i0edl6 e2kc3sl0\">But there is no guarantee that such a free-trade deal will be quick or easy. Normally such agreements take years to negotiate.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-1i0edl6 e2kc3sl0\">There is also discussion of limiting the jurisdiction of the European Court of Justice and European Union customs officials over Northern Ireland as part of the \u201cbackstop\u201d deal, which Ireland (with the support of Brussels) has insisted be written into the withdrawal agreement.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-1i0edl6 e2kc3sl0\">If Britain and Brussels cannot work out their future trading relationship in time, the backstop would essentially establish a border between the entire island of Ireland and the rest of Britain for customs, regulatory standards and value-added tax.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<aside class=\"css-14jsv4e\"><\/aside>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"css-18sbwfn StoryBodyCompanionColumn\">\n<div class=\"css-1h6whtw\">\n<p class=\"css-1i0edl6 e2kc3sl0\">Given the difficulties, some in Britain have been forecasting no deal at all, a so-called cliff-edge Brexit. But senior European officials think that a deal is still more likely than not, if both sides are \u201creasonable.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-1i0edl6 e2kc3sl0\">They also say they would be willing to extend the \u201ctransition\u201d period to negotiate a new relationship with Britain past December 2020, its current end date. But a specific clause to that effect, with a time limit, must be included in the withdrawal agreement.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-1i0edl6 e2kc3sl0\">The problem for Britain is that any extension would mean additional payments into the European Union budget and a continuation of \u201crule taking\u201d without a vote, which would outrage Brexiteers.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-1i0edl6 e2kc3sl0\">What many European officials fear is less a cliff-edge Brexit next March than one at the end of 2020, if a final free-trade deal is not completed.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-1i0edl6 e2kc3sl0\">To negotiate a special free-trade deal with Britain that avoids a hard border in Ireland, plus a possible second agreement on security, would ordinarily take years.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-1i0edl6 e2kc3sl0\">But the Brexit withdrawal agreement comes first, and the remaining issues are difficult.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-1i0edl6 e2kc3sl0\">At least now though, European officials say, the talks, at long last, can get more serious.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Aug. 15, 2018 By\u00a0Steven Erlanger, The New York Times BRUSSELS \u2014 From the start of the torturous negotiations over Brexit, as Britain\u2019s exit from the European Union is known, the<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":11039,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[23],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-11038","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-news-room"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.worldpolicyconference.com\/fr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/11038","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.worldpolicyconference.com\/fr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.worldpolicyconference.com\/fr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.worldpolicyconference.com\/fr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.worldpolicyconference.com\/fr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=11038"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.worldpolicyconference.com\/fr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/11038\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.worldpolicyconference.com\/fr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/11039"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.worldpolicyconference.com\/fr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=11038"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.worldpolicyconference.com\/fr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=11038"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.worldpolicyconference.com\/fr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=11038"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}